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#662: chuksi » #661: Buggle Supporter Gold
Back to the top! 8-27-2017 18:24
Yeah - though the reason Sanchez is quiet is because his teammates aren't doing their part. The moments he's had the ball he has been lively. The weird thing is that most of the players in the team are good, but they're just not playing as a team.

I'm not so sure about Everton to be honest. They'll be solid, but I feel that they're a little light in attack. Rooney is.. ok I guess, but not more, Sigurdsson.. well, from open play he is average. He has a wicked free kick, but that's not enough for a top 6 side IMO. Barkley.. will he even get in the team now that they have Rooney and Sigurdsson? I mean - there are new players that came in, but who will score the goals Lukaku did? Defensively they're surely better than last season, but is that enough? IMO their level isn't very good, but they might get sixth if Arsenal go into freefall. Which is possible of course.

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#663: Buggle Supporter Gold » #662: chuksi
Back to the top! 8-27-2017 18:35
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I'm just saying -- Everton often outperform, and they're better know than they're maybe ever been. Yes, they lost in the Rooney - Lukaku swap, but Sigurdsson & Pickford are two nice pickups for them -- especially Pickford.

#664: chuksi » #663: Buggle Supporter Gold
Back to the top! 8-27-2017 19:23
I'm not so sure about Sigurdsson. His overall stats are good, but from open play he created something like 4 goals and 3 assists last season while being the main man for Swansea. He'll put in good balls from set pieces and possibly score a few of them as well(if he even plays all the time), but I feel that it's not really an upgrade. In open play Ross Barkley got 5 goals and 8 assists last seaon. If they continue with 3-5-2, then where is Barkley going to fit in? Rooney and Sigurdsson play behind a striker(Sandro or Calvert-Lewin so far) and that would mean Barkley has to play in midfield where he has to compete with Klaassen, another attacking midfielder who cost them 25m and there will always be at least one more defensive midfielder there - Gueye most probably. And there's also Davies and Besic there for the games where they aren't that offensive.

All in all it seems to me like Sigurdsson is a straight swap for Barkley or they spent 25m on Klaassen to be a benchwarmer, because I can't see Sigurdsson, Rooney, Klaassen and Barkley all playing in the same side if they don't want to leave their defense exposed and want to have some pace in attack to help out Rooney as well.

All in all the Sigurdsson deal seems like a very poor one for me. The cost is just unbelievable for someone who is 28 in 10 days and isn't a great player. His set piece delivery is great, but IMO that's not enough.

Pickford is probably a good keeper and Keane as a CB is probably a good addition as well. But their attack just doesn't seem that good. I think they'll struggle to score goals and have too many draws against weaker teams.

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#665: Lamba » #659: Buggle Supporter Gold
Back to the top! 8-27-2017 19:44
wtf was that tactic from Arsenal?

The players on the field were perfect for a 4-2-3-1 Wide, instead they play some 3-4-2-1...
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#666: Nemanja77 Supporter Gold » #660: chuksi
Back to the top! 8-27-2017 20:32
After today's game I suspect some Arsenal players are intentionally working against Wenger, or at least they don't give a damn.

Their today's performance was really poor.
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#667: Nemanja77 Supporter Gold » #1: Everyone
Back to the top! 9-2-2017 12:09
Not sure I like Pereira's loan move to Valencia.

If he hasn't earned a place in the team by now, it will be difficult to see him back again next year. He would really have to play a major role in Valencia and be great in Primera, in order for Jose to consider him for next season.

I am not sure it was a positive move for United, as we might need Pereira in a long season, with all the cups, league games and Champions League.

Too bad, as I was hoping Mourinho would give him more chances this year.
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#668: chuksi » #667: Nemanja77 Supporter Gold
Back to the top! 9-2-2017 12:13
I like him as well and this is the reason I'm unsure about Jose. This would've been a good option to have him in the first team, playing more and more games, integrating him into the first team squad. That's what Fergie used to do with great effect - giving the 19-22 year olds chances.

The other obvious question is whether Pereira wanted to play more than Jose was willing to 'guarantee' him, in which case I can understand him moving on. After all he seems to like United and if things go well, we might buy him back soon. After all - that seems to be the norm nowadays.

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#669: Nemanja77 Supporter Gold » #668: chuksi
Back to the top! 9-2-2017 12:36

The other obvious question is whether Pereira wanted to play more than Jose was willing to 'guarantee' him



From what I could understand reading his statements, Pereira really likes United and would be glad just to have a role in the squad, as long as he get some chances to play. Therefore, Cup games and maybe some appearances in the league would be enough to keep him pleased this season.

Dunno, I think he has got the quality and also the versatility which would be useful for Jose, once first team players start getting injured or suspended, or tired in the second part of the season.

I am afraid that we might again get short with options and that Mourinho will have to reach to the reserves again, instead of having players like Pereira at his disposal. What's the point of giving him another year in Spain when he needs to get used to playing in England?
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#670: Nemanja77 Supporter Gold » #1: Everyone
Back to the top! 9-14-2017 13:27
New song for Lukaku, sang by Man Utd fans against Basel:

"Romelu Lukaku
He's our Belgian scoring genius
With a 24inch penis
Scoring all the goals
bellend to his toes"


\o/

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPwngOHdWBs)
Edited 9-14-2017 14:07 by Nemanja77
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#671: Nemanja77 Supporter Gold » #1: Everyone
Back to the top! 10-13-2017 10:40
Big game tomorrow:

(http://www.manutd.com/en/Fixtures-And-Results....aspx)

After that, we have three more games away, in only 6 days (18-24 October against Benfica, Huddersfield and Swansea).

Coming home, we've got two tricky games in three days (28 and 31 Oct, against Spurs and Benfica again), therefore a full schedule, not so easy as it was at the start of the season.

Any thoughts? Comments?

Personally, I don't like those games after the international break, but I think and hope we are in a good situation and better form than Liverpool. Some of our players have luckily missed the international games, so they will be fresh for Anfield game. Martial and Herrera first of all, have a good occasion to prove they deserve to be in our first 11. Hope they will actually do that.
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#672: chuksi » #671: Nemanja77 Supporter Gold
Back to the top! 10-13-2017 16:06
I'm expecting us to play cautiously and on the counter. We know how well Liverpools attack works if they're afforded space and I think we won't see that.

I think the team is quite mature in terms of understanding the Jose-way and thus will be solid defensively and that will be tough for Liverpool. In attack I suspect we'll take advantage of their weaknesses and score at least one. The players we have in attack have done really well and I expect that to continue.

As for the timing of this fixture being just after the international break - well, I hope they change the international schedule so that all the internationals get played at some point either during a season or before/after the season. But until then it's just something we can't really do much about.

This time around I think we were better off than Liverpool as they had more players coming back from the other end of the world. We basically had Valencia plus some European players, they had Coutinho, Firmino, Mane, Matip and Salah coming from other continents, although I haven't looked where in Africa the last three played. In the end I think it doesn't matter that much. This is a big game and they'll be ready for it anyway.

I think we're favorites tomorrow, because we've just been so solid until now.

As for the other games - it's just the normal calendar for football IMO. We usually see two games per week for nearly all the season anyway. Huddersfield is closer to Manchester than Liverpool so it's not really a significant trip in terms of getting tired or smth. So it's nothing special IMO.

The only worry against Liverpool for me is the lack of a third midfield option. We're probably going to line up with Matic and Herrera as CMs(which is great) and then Miki as a number 10? Defensively - is Miki good enough there? We are probably going to be without the ball for significant amounts of time and hopefully he will do well there. Fortunately it's not a big issue and I wouldn't be surprised to see Lingard start as the more advanced midfielder 'doing a job' as he is disciplined and sort of exactly in the squad to play a role in such games IMO.

I'm not sure Rashford and Martial will both start, but then again I'm not worried, because either of them coming on after an hour against a tiring Joe Gomez is going to be fun :). I think we'll see Mata on the right from the start.

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#673: Nemanja77 Supporter Gold » #672: chuksi
Back to the top! 10-14-2017 10:05
It will be important that we keep calm at the start and manage to control the first 10-15 minutes, when Liverpool will probably try to have a flying start and use the atmosphere on the stadium to make pressure on us. If we can hold them off at the first impact, we will be able to take control of the match, don't let them any space behind our lines, frustrate them and then use the space they will leave for our counter attacks.

Mourinho might start this game with three central defenders, probably (from left to right) Darmian, Smalling (if Jones is not fit) and Bailly. Young and Valencia would have a bit more freedom to push forward, Matic and Herrera would be sitting in front of the defence and then there would be Miki, Lingard and Lukaku upfront. This would be a very defensive lineup, but not bad for this kind of game. However, I think Jose' will put at least one from Martial and Rashford between the starting 11. For example, the same side I mentioned above with Martial instead of Lingard. This way, Martial would be able to exploit spaces not just on the wing, but also through the middle and combine with Miki and Lukaku on the counter. He would have a good support from Young on the left and therefore will be able to get closer to the goal.
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#674: chuksi » #673: Nemanja77 Supporter Gold
Back to the top! 10-14-2017 11:11
Yeah, the 3-5-2 is an option as well of course. I feel a bit like Miki's position is in danger and not Rashfords/Martials and Lingard might play ahead of Miki. Because Rashford and Martial will certainly be dangerous while Mkhitaryan needs someone else to support him to be dangerous and at Anfield I think we'll have fewer attacks where we manage to get a lot of players upfield. More likely we'll have 2-4 players breaking into space and there Miki perhaps isn't as effective. He can be effective, because he is deceptively quick, but the question is whether he has earned the trust of Jose defensively for big games since the first third of last season.

I think it's quite likely that your proposed formation will start. I'm not sure about Darmian, I think Lindelöf might start ahead of him(if Jones isn't fit) because he is a centre back, better on the ball and probably just overall a better player.

Will be an interesting match.

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#675: saintroy16 Supporter Platinum » #1: Everyone
Back to the top! 10-15-2017 20:15
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Good point yesterday IMO. Two fit inner mids in Herrera and Matic, packed fixture list coming up, and one or two decent chances carved out.

7 points behind, Liverpool needed a win and end the day 7 points behind. They should have won so that should have felt like two points dropped.

Take the point, take the clean sheet, stay unbeaten and beat Huddersfield next weekend.
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#676: chuksi » #675: saintroy16 Supporter Platinum
Back to the top! 10-15-2017 20:41
In the big picture it's a decent point. But I'd say we were slightly underwhelming on the ball. Missed Pogba a lot. Or even the Fellaini of the last month - he would've eased pressure and got us further up the pitch. And made us more dangerous during set plays(which were also poorer than expected).

Overall - defense did well, attack.. I hoped for more.

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#677: saintroy16 Supporter Platinum » #676: chuksi
Back to the top! 10-15-2017 20:54
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chuksi wrote:

In the big picture it's a decent point. But I'd say we were slightly underwhelming on the ball. Missed Pogba a lot. Or even the Fellaini of the last month - he would've eased pressure and got us further up the pitch. And made us more dangerous during set plays(which were also poorer than expected).

Overall - defense did well, attack.. I hoped for more.



Fair. Pogba creates a lot of chances, I'm hoping he comes back in the next couple matches, but with hamstrings it is always better safe than sorry.
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#678: Un_om_bun » #675: saintroy16 Supporter Platinum
Back to the top! 10-15-2017 21:08
I think the plan was to soak up pressure and hit Liverpool with a counter, and while the defending part was ok, the passing beyond United's third was atrocious. I frankly can't remember the last game where I saw so many missplaced passes, so many balls blasted in no-man's-land and outside the field. Because of that, the only chance the team got was Lukaku's and if he had scored now we would be talking about how brilliant the gameplan was and the team performed :P Praise de Gea!

#679: Buggle Supporter Gold » #1: Everyone
Back to the top! 10-15-2017 21:12
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Think this article is interesting. Mourinho is starting to flirt with PSG.

(http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41629072)

#680: chuksi » #679: Buggle Supporter Gold
Back to the top! 10-15-2017 22:19
Thought this quote was weird as well. That's one of the reasons why I hoped we'd appoint someone else. Jose is a short term solution and perhaps even needed right now, but not ideal at all.

The problem is that I don't see a great solution out there right now. I guess we won't see someone managing United for a longer period any time soon. Pochettino might be the only one that could manage long term. The only chance of him leaving Spurs seems to be if his ambition is bigger than the club's. If Kane and Alli leave and they can't replace them, then who knows... Who knows.. it might happen.

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